{"id":19008,"date":"2023-10-13T14:45:01","date_gmt":"2023-10-13T12:45:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/conferences.isaqb.org\/software-architecture-gathering\/?p=19008"},"modified":"2025-04-25T14:30:22","modified_gmt":"2025-04-25T12:30:22","slug":"unlocking-digital-transformation-shifting-mindsets-and-embracing-change-for-leadership-success-an-interview-with-klemens-skibicki","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/conferences.isaqb.org\/software-architecture-gathering\/unlocking-digital-transformation-shifting-mindsets-and-embracing-change-for-leadership-success-an-interview-with-klemens-skibicki\/","title":{"rendered":"Unlocking Digital Transformation: Shifting Mindsets and Embracing Change for Leadership Success"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"19008\" class=\"elementor elementor-19008\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a8d46fa e-flex e-con-boxed e-con 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change founder.consultant.professor<\/h6>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-33 elementor-inner-column elementor-element elementor-element-7891572 elementor-hidden-tablet elementor-hidden-mobile\" data-id=\"7891572\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7441559 elementor-share-buttons--view-icon elementor-share-buttons--skin-flat elementor-share-buttons--shape-circle elementor-share-buttons--align-right elementor-share-buttons--color-custom elementor-grid-0 elementor-widget elementor-widget-share-buttons\" data-id=\"7441559\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"share-buttons.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-grid\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div 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data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h6 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Published on October 17, 2023<\/h6>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-8874d69 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"8874d69\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h2 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Unlocking Digital Transformation: Shifting Mindsets and Embracing Change for Leadership Success<\/h2>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3c08352 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"3c08352\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h5 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">An interview with Klemens Skibicki<\/h5>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-ef4412b elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"ef4412b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">In anticipation of Klemens Skibicki's keynote, <a href=\"https:\/\/conferences.isaqb.org\/software-architecture-gathering\/program-2023\/#digital-transformation-management-is-also-a-mental-transformation-of-leadership-\"><b><u>\"Digital Transformation Management Is Also a Mental Transformation of Leadership!\"<\/u><\/b><\/a>, we asked him a number of questions about digital transformation and leadership success in the face of this structural change.<\/p>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f440864 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"f440864\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\"><b>The keynote discusses the transformation of leadership in the context of digital transformation. Could you share a specific example from your experience where leadership's mindset and perspective needed to shift significantly to successfully navigate a digital transformation initiative?<\/b><\/p>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-82b3bb3 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"82b3bb3\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">There is no need to name a specific example here, because all successful transformation processes, without exception, succeed only if at least the executives are willing and able to understand what constitutes the structural change from the industrial age to the digitally networked age and that the view and many skills learned in the old framework conditions are not helpful in grasping the new ones. This is not possible without a shift in mindset. It is impossible to understand today's framework with yesterday's view and logic. This does not mean that everything existing is no longer suitable, but it requires the willingness and ability to holistically recognize what the best solutions are from the possibilities of today. This is a great mental challenge precisely because many previous skills and experiences are devalued by the digital transformation and this does not feel good, especially for executives, because they often find themselves in uncharted territory and accordingly feel uncertain or overwhelmed.<\/p>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4351126 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"4351126\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\"><b>In your talk, you mention that technology is only a necessary enabler for digital transformation. Could you elaborate on the other critical factors that contribute to the success of a digital transformation initiative, particularly when it comes to reshaping people's perspectives and mindsets?<\/b><\/p>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-156673a elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"156673a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">It is about thinking at least 3 dimensions together. Technology opens up a new economic logic in many places so that new roles and processes are better suited than the possibilities of the industrial age with its value chains, hierarchies, and broadcast communication of the classic mass media. Digital transformation is therefore not exactly the same as doing things digitally. Therefore, for a holistic transformation, every process and every role must be questioned as to whether it is still the best solution. The third dimension is the human dimension and therefore the most difficult one: Once people have learned something different, they don't automatically do the new thing just because it's there. The \"we've always done it this way\" is very strong and must be factored in as a hurdle. The most important thing here is to show everyone involved a clear \"why\" and that always moves between the opportunities and the dangers of ignoring the adaptation. Only afterward, after this attitude has been changed, can the \"how\" successfully gain momentum.<\/p>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-bb0d1dd elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"bb0d1dd\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\"><b>Overcoming resistance to change is a common challenge in any transformation effort. How do you recommend leaders approach the task of motivating their teams to embrace the questioning of established mindsets and to actively engage in the digital transformation process?<\/b><\/p>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-48b32dc elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"48b32dc\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">The paths are always a little different and depend on the structures, people, and settings you find. But it is not possible without a clear, uniform understanding of what constitutes digital structural change and why one must adapt to it, nor without a clear commitment and example on the part of the managers. As a leader, I can't say how important digital transformation is and then say, but you guys go ahead and do it, I'm left out in the cold.<\/p>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4a3c997 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"4a3c997\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\"><b>Could you share an anecdote from your keynote that illustrates a situation where an organization underwent a successful holistic transformation, including the necessary mental shift of leadership?<\/b><\/p>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1a69183 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"1a69183\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">A successful holistic transformation process always starts with a necessary mental shift of  the leadership in this respect. There is no other way. This shift requires a uniform understanding of what is happening around an organization in terms of digitally networked structural change and on the basis of which economic logic and human behavior this is happening. Only when this \"before the bracket\" is understood, accepted, and lived can the consequences of the adaptation be thought through and adapted in all areas of the company. The mental transformation in the leaders themselves and those they should take with them must be understood as the most important hurdle through the entire process and as a constant mental adaption. Digital transformation is not a project, but a constantly ongoing process of mental transformation in a dynamic world. One moment it was the conversion of mindsets, roles, and processes to \"mobile social first\" and the next moment it is about checking all processes and roles for possible productivity advances through artificial intelligence. Only very emergent organizations are able to adapt to this, but it stands and falls with the executives in companies of all sizes.<\/p>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d23bbf1 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"d23bbf1\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\"><b>If you look at the real world, to what extent is lack of mental transformation still a problem? How high do you estimate the percentage of affected organizations?<\/b><\/p>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1b6dff3 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"1b6dff3\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Difficult to estimate but a very high percentage does not even have a common understanding of the digital change around their organization. And if everyone is talking about something different, how can you develop a unified goal and strategy? Just talking about \"digital strategy\" or putting \"online\" and \"e-\" in front of many functions like \"online marketing\", you still have a dichotomy in your head as if these were 2 separate areas. In many companies, there are also different departments, people, budgets, and mindsets. But for the people out there, this has long been a single merged world or do you put your smartphone in front of the door of a supermarket and say \"Now I am an offline customer\"?<\/p>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-507ca6d elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"507ca6d\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\"><b>Is it a generation problem and are younger leaders (digital natives) better mentally equipped to solve these problems?<\/b><\/p>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-708db63 elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"708db63\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<p class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Younger generations have grown into this digitally networked world and therefore find it easier if they do not have to question or forget old processes and roles. They often lack the experience and understanding of the framework conditions in the minds of their older colleagues. Experience is also a valuable asset in many industries, but in many digital areas, for example, the experience of the younger employees can be greater than that of the older ones. As a rule, however, it is a matter of allowing the respective strengths to emerge in intergenerational teams and of knowing and respecting the respective weaknesses instead of remaining stuck in a hierarchical understanding of roles. 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