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Juke Trabold
Juke Trabold
Engineering Manager at Zerion
Published on April 30, 2025

SAG 2024 – Expert Interview with Juke Trabold

In the 10th episode of our video series of expert interviews with SAG 2024 speakers, Juke Trabold explores how inclusive leadership can reshape the future of software engineering. Below, we’ve summarized the key takeaways from their interview. You can watch the full video at the end of the article.

Inclusive Leadership: A Catalyst for Change in Software Engineering

Juke Trabold, a non-binary engineering manager and community facilitator, discusses how the tech industry can foster more inclusive, psychologically safe, and diverse environments. Drawing from personal leadership experiences, Juke emphasizes the importance of representation and inclusivity within teams. While representation is an important first step, creating environments where individuals can thrive and contribute their unique perspectives is crucial for innovation and growth.

Juke also highlights the importance of challenging outdated norms in software architecture and creating opportunities for non-male and queer individuals in tech. Juke explains that inclusivity goes beyond just hiring; it’s about fostering an environment where everyone feels like a valuable member of the team, encouraging diverse ideas, and breaking down the barriers that hinder change.

Key Takeaways:

1. Non-binary leadership challenges traditional norms and inspires future diverse leaders in tech.
2. Psychologically safe environments are essential for innovation and team collaboration.
3. Inclusion goes beyond hiring — it’s about creating a culture that values diverse perspectives.
4. Conferences and communities play a key role in shaping inclusive cultures in tech.
5. Diversity drives better outcomes, fostering innovation and improving team performance.

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